and that is the fbi, congress and also the state department itself. so a lot of this who knew what when may not be clear until after the election, wolf. >> after these investigations are wrapped up. jill, thanks very much. john king has been looking into this as well. he's here. this is becoming a big issue out there on the campaign, john, isn't it? >> there are significant policy questions. get to the campaign in a second. huge policy questions when the vice president says we did not know, jay carney says it was a personal we, the president and vice president, did not know. what the romney campaign says this is a pattern. they say whenever there's something damaging in the administration, the white house washes its hands and says somewhere in the bureaucracy someone else is responsible for that and say the president of the united states is in charge of that bureaucracy, he should take responsibility for it. wants answers democrats and republicans as to why the security requests didn't make their way up the food chain fast enough, governor romney thin